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Faction, and who is killed on sight where

originally published by Graffe's Gaming Forums, Vanguard board · 1,938 words

The commands, what Dynamic and Full faction mean, and a city-by-city list of which races are attacked on sight. The archive has no faction table of any kind.

The commands, what Dynamic and Full faction mean, and a city-by-city list of which races are attacked on sight. The archive has no faction table of any kind.

Written on Graffe's Gaming Forums, the Vanguard board that the site's EverQuest wizards moved to, between 2007-02-07 0 and 2007-03-06 1. These are other people's words, kept as they wrote them; each post names who wrote it. Quotes of the post above have been dropped, and nothing else is changed. The thread.

ian33w · 2007-02-07 07:49

Faction Guide(This guide is still a work in progress; please post any information or corrections that you know of. More information will be added to this post as it becomes available.)

Basics

The commands to see your factions are:

/showfaction (This will list all factions that you have.)

/showfactionbyname <Name of Faction> (This will show you the specific faction you want to look at.) (This is still a little buggy)

The faction list will give you two faction listings. One is your Dynamic Faction; this is the faction that corresponds to any faction hits you get from kills, quest, or anything else that you have done to modify that specific faction. The other is your Full Faction; this is your total actual faction.

If you are tagged as KOS then you will be attacked if seen, can not accept quest, buy/ repair or sell to merchants, and will not be able to hail anyone on that faction list. KOS is set to -8k or higher for any given faction group. At 200+ Dynamic Faction or under –8k Full Faction, you are no longer KOS and can function normally with in that faction grouping.

KOS List

Most (but not all) small outposts are not KOS to races, but start with pretty low faction values.

Major Areas:

Martok

Kills on Sight: Half Elf

Kills on Sight: Kojani Human

Kills on Sight: Raki

Kills on Sight: Wood Elf

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human

Kills on Sight: Qaliathari Human

Kills on Sight: Dwarf

Kills on Sight: Halfling

Kills on Sight: High Elf

Kills on Sight: Thestran Human

Tanvu

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Caial Brael

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Hathor Zhi

Kills on Sight: Half Elf

Kills on Sight: Kojani Human

Kills on Sight: Raki

Kills on Sight: Wood Elf

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human

Kills on Sight: Qaliathari

Kills on Sight: Dwarf

Kills on Sight: Halfling

Kills on Sight: High Elf

Kills on Sight: Thestran Human

Mekalia

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Kills on Sight: Kurashasa

Kills on Sight: Dwarf

Kills on Sight: Lesser Giant

Qur'xa

Kills on Sight: Raki

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: Mordebi Human

Kills on Sight: Qaliathari Human

Kills on Sight: Vulmane

Khal (Except for Foreign Quarter)

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Kills on Sight: Kurashasa

Lomshir

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Bordinar's Cleft

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: Varanthari

Kills on Sight: Lesser Giant

Kills on Sight: Varanjar

Kills on Sight: Vulmane

Rindol Field

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Leth Nurae

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Kills on Sight: Vulmane

Halgarad

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: Dwarf

Tursh

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Dahknarg

Kills on Sight: Half Elf

Kills on Sight: Wood Elf

Kills on Sight: Gnome

Kills on Sight: High Elf

Ahgram

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Kills on Sight: Kurashasa

New Targonor

Tursh

Kills on Sight: Goblin

Kills on Sight: Orc

Kills on Sight: Dark Elf

Other Faction Information

Diplomacy Prestige Faction

You need 500+ prestige with a given city to get Writs in that city, along with 200 Diplomacy Skill. Later you can use your prestige faction to buy “favors”, basically you spend your faction points to gain items, gear, and other things. More on this as it becomes available.

Crafting Faction

You need 100+ artisan faction to get access to recipes. There are two ways to gain artisan faction. You get continental artisan faction and city artisan faction while completing Work Orders in the major city of that continent. It doesn't matter which difficulty you choose to complete or what quality level the outcome is. Completing Work Orders in an outpost will give you one point of “City” Artisan Faction with the city that trades with that outpost as well as one general “City” Faction. In addition, you will get two points of “Continent” Artisan Faction. Crafting quests is the other known way to increase your artisan faction. Completing a tier quest on your own continent will reward you with 100 faction points. On foreign continents you will only get 50.

Outpost Factions

Qalia- Khal Outpost

Go south from Khal and cross the river. There is a Camp with 3 big tents.

All Work Orders you finish here give you

1 Khal Artisan Faction

2 Qalia Artisan Faction

1 Khal City Faction

1 Khal Foreign Quarters Faction

Thestra - Bordinar's Cleft Outpost

Southwatch is marked on your map. Follow the road from New Targonor heading west

All WOs you finish here give you

1 Bordinar's Cleft Artisan Faction

2 Thestra Artisan Faction

1 Bordinar's Cleft Faction will only gain 50 points of faction.

Faction Grinding

Martok

Kill Golgrethor Orcs in Grimsea Watch area (Level 1-3)

Khal City / Upside Alliance

Kill Ksvarti rats. They are in a cave east of Khal. (Level 6-7)

Ca'ial Brael / Tawar Galan - Foreign Visitation Area /

The City of Tanvu

Kill Gataro just north of Ca'ial Brael at the area where the river splits.

The City of Tanvu

Kill Gataro south of the stronghold near Tanvu in a cave (Level 7 - 9)

Tursh / Rindol's Field

Kill redcaps in the old Storage and about the area west of Tursh (Level 8-10)

Kill humanoids in Rift Seekers Dungeon south of Tursh (Level 6-11)

Bordinars Cleft

Kill Bugbears in the Three Rivers Chunk

Kill Kobolds in the BC Newbie Area

Kill Oathbreakers near BC

Go to the cave at the dead end, it is south of Shaletooth Tower. Kill the Kobold in side, also gives Western Plains faction. (Level 5-8)

Hathor Zhi

The canyon leading to Hathor Zhi. There are camps of Un-pure Dark Elves. (level 6-7)

Leth Nuar

Kaon " fairies, whisps and humanoids " in the area south of Leth nuar. (Level 8-9)

Mekalia / Upside Alliance

Kill everything in the Library of Mekalia Dungeon. (Level 4-7)

Fredre · 2007-02-07 07:57

fixed?

That is nice work though ... even if I haven't gotten the chance to play yet. :glinlor:

Nattik Frostreaver · 2007-02-07 08:00

I will sticky it for now but I just realized that we need a library to save this useful info while keeping the top of the forum from being to overcrowded.

ian33w · 2007-02-07 11:46

Changed the info based on the patch today. Had to confirm the drop in faction kos setting, it is 200+ dynamic rating and still -8K when you do the math. Now my best allies are gnomes over goblins due to my earlier faction finding missions lol.

P.S. I think I am now the most loved goblin, no longer KOS for most starting places. Only places left are Bardinar's Cleft, Leth Nurue, Ahgram and very little left to get on khal.

Grindel · 2007-02-08 03:00

Thanks a ton for this information. Are there any other threshholds that are valuable to know besides the ones listed above? Is there something besides KOS/non-KOS for instance, where you move from yellow up to a different color? What's the threshhold to move from orange to yellow?

ian33w · 2007-02-08 04:46

There are a few, but havent got a faction high enough to find their levels

examples are:

Red is KOS = -8k of higher

Orange is non-helpful = Not sure as i pass this with dynamic faction. (I think it is around -6k full

Yellow is neutral = 200 dynamic or under -8k full

Green is helpful = havent made it to this level yet but i think it is over 2k positive side

I will post more as i get more.

Illusive · 2007-02-13 11:40

examples are:

Red is KOS = -8k of higher

Orange is non-helpful = Not sure as i pass this with dynamic faction. (I think it is around -6k full

Yellow is neutral = 200 dynamic or under -8k full

Green is helpful = havent made it to this level yet but i think it is over 2k positive side

I will post more as i get more.

im almost to 2k for leth nurae, anyone know if there are any benefits from having them con green over yellow?

Illusive · 2007-02-27 09:40

just wanted to say this is some great info here, and to add something I noticed grinding up martok faction

if I instakilled lvl 7 mobs via char or fireball i got no faction dings.

However, when I used the macro for itemuse then /cast the clicky would land first (which would not insta kill the mob) and then the spell would land second killing the mob, and thus gain me faction hits.

fyi for anyone going out there to grind low level mobs for faction.

Grindel · 2007-03-03 11:58

Grinding in Thestra:

Between Three Rivers and Themwar's Shield there is a lake. On the western edge of the lake is a small bugbear camp. 9 mobs, level 12. Rare spawn is a Thaumaturist who drops a spear as a common and a club as a rare - neither seemed all that outstanding.

Factions gained per kill:

Bordinar's Cleft

Three Rivers

New Targonor

Quite handy. The bugbears are attached to a missive in three rivers, so please be courteous if people show up looking to get their kills.

Qumil · 2007-03-05 08:03

I don't see a listing for Pankor Zhi...

I took my High Elf sorc and gained factin with Hathor Zhi but was still KoS to Pangor Zhi. Ironicly I did some low level quests there and gained the tytle "of Pankor Zhi"

So are there some "elite" NPC that require a higher faction level? I rolled up a dark elf and he was not kos to Pankor Zhi.

Grindel · 2007-03-06 09:28

I read that PZ is a level 48+ adventure area right now, but I don't know of any way to gain faction. As a dark elf I'm orange there (one guy kicks my butt just for daring to hail him) even with 1000 PZ prestige faction. I get the sense that we're not really supposed to be hanging out yet there, although as a diplomat I'd think that'd be an important center.

Daeanor · 2007-03-06 10:25

Prestige faction is not aggro faction. It's not really implemented yet - supposed to be "favor points" you can trade in for items or maybe buffs. It takes several thousand normal faction points to become non-KoS (I don't remember the actual nmber), and prestige caps at 1000, so it's very possible you just aren't there yet (to say nothing of different factions in the same area ... for example, I am fine with the humans in Lomsir as a Qaliathari, but the Kura there are KoS, and they are mixed together in places).

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