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Learning Rebuttals

Level 18 · Diplomacy · Khal

Outside the Wayfarer's Embassy

Objectives

Place your new Rebut Statement in your Strategy. Win the 'Rebuttal' parley with Mina, and practice using your new Rebut. Learn Rebuttals

Description

Mina says, "Rebuttal is the art of taking Expression from your opponent. It is a subtle tool, perfect for Qaliathari diplomats." "Those who use it find that they can take apart an opponent's Strategy much more quickly." "Let's see what you can do with it. I will give you a Statement to put in your Strategy. Use it on me in a practice parley."

What they say

On offering it

Aspelta Kamidalta
says, "Rebuttal is the art of taking Expression from your opponent. It is a subtl tool, perfect for Mordebi diplomats." "Those who use it find that they can take apart an opponent's Strategy much more quickly." "Let's see what you can do with it. I will give you a Statement to put in your Strategy. Use it on me in practice parley."

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Mina
Rebuttal is the art of taking Expression from your opponent. It is a subtle tool, perfect for Qaliathari diplomats. Those who use it find that they can take apart an opponent's Strategy much more quickly. Let's see what you can do with it. I will give you a Statement to put in your Strategy. Use it on me in a practice parley.

Recorded by quest description.

Mina Zeya
Mina says, "Rebuttal is the art of taking Expression from your opponent. It is a subtle tool, perfect for Qaliathari diplomats." "Those who use it find that they can take apart an opponent's Strategy much more quickly." "Let's see what you can do with it. I will give you a Statement to put in your Strategy. Use it on me in a practice parley."

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Neowe Flameborne
"One last lesson, in a new strategy known as Rebuttal. Rebuttal is an incredibly powerful means of blowing through your opponent's strategy," says Neowe. "Because it takes it apart from the inside out. Rebuttals allow you to take away some of your opponent's Expression and claim it as your own. You can see how that would come in handy, I'm sure." "Engage with me to learn more about Rebuttals."

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Hubert Ringsworth
Hubert says, "Doubtless Redria did not teach you about the diplomatic tactic known as Rebuttal. Rebuttal is the art of taking Expression from your opponent, and she considers it a bit underhanded." "Those who use it, though, find that they can take apart an opponent's Strategy much more quickly." "Give it a try! I will give you a Statement to put in your Strategy. Use it on me in a practice parley."

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While you carry it

Mina Zeya
===Learning Rebuttals=== You say, "Are Rebuts like Repeals?" <Trainer> says, "Not really, but they are just as useful. A Repeal is for conversion. A Rebuttal is for denial." <Trainer> gives you an encouraging smile. <Trainer> says, "In this parley, you will see me building up Flattery to make Assertions against you." <Trainer> says, "If you have placed your Rebut called 'Greener Pastures' in your Strategy, use it on me now." <Trainer> says, "Provided you have a head on me, spending a turn to take away my ability to fight back makes your victory even more assured!" <Trainer> stifles a yawn, waiting for you to grasp the lesson. <Trainer> says, "Make no mistake, a Rebuttal is only useful when used at just the right moment." <Trainer> studies your expressions carefully, trying to gauge whether you look lost or confused. <Trainer> says, "Gain an advantage, wait for your opponent to play an Evaluation, then use your Rebuttal!" <Trainer> says, "Tailoring your Strategy using Repeals and Rebuts will spell the difference between victory and defeat someday."

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On finishing it

Mina Zeya
<Trainer> says, "Well, that was quite impressive, <playername>. Rebuts are next to useless unless you can predict your opponent's strength. Remember to gain an advanage over them, then carefully swipe their Expression. <Trainer> says, "Denial of Expression powerful, <playername>. I think you already understand its worth." "You're ready to start growing as a diplomat. Seek out Shebtigo Wedjejeh to learn about Civic Diplomacy."

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Notes

Also offered by Neowe Flameborne /loc= -53267, -11968, 21821 in Ca'ial Brael (-18, 4) You are given ability Statement: Lay Blame ===Aspelta Kamidalta=== location: Khal :1 0 Soldier ===Neowe Flameborne=== loc: -53267, -11968, 21821 in Ca'ial Brael (-18, 4) Learn Rebuttals :4 <gallery widths="175" spacing="small" orientation="portrait" captionalign="left"> Patient words.JPG Badgering overture.JPG Good point.JPG </gallery>

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Another account

A second source described this quest differently. Both are kept here; neither is a correction of the other.

Objectives as recorded by curse

Place your new Rebuttal "Lay Blame" in your strategy. Parley with Neowe Flameborne to learn more about how to use Rebuttal abilities. Learn Rebuttals

Objectives as recorded by fandom

Learn Rebuttals Place your new Rebuttal "Lay Blame" in your strategy. Win the 'Rebuttal' parley with <trainer>, and practice using your new Rebut.

Objectives as recorded by vg-en.curse-gaming.com, Curse's Vanguard database before the rescale

Place your new Rebut Statement in your Strategy. Win the 'Rebuttal' parley with Hubert, and practice using your new Rebut. Learn Rebuttals

Details

Starts with
Aspelta Kamidalta, Hubert Ringsworth, Mina, Mina Zeya, Neowe Flameborne
Starts in
Khal
Location
4989, -58690, 1248 in Khal (-13,-9)
Hand in to
Mina Zeya
Also involved
Mino
Items needed
Cabochon Of Jaiet

Rewards

  • Card Of Disarming Rebuttal Card Of Disarming Rebuttal Diplomacy Card Item Level: 1
  • Card Of Lay Blame
  • Flawed Cut Sapphire Flawed Cut Sapphire Misc Required Class: Bard, Paladin, Cleric, Druid, Inquisitor, Psionicist, Monk, Ranger, Dread Knight, Rogue, Shaman, Sorcerer, Disciple, Warrior, Blood Mage, Necromancer, Berserker
  • Well-formed Citrine Well-formed Citrine Misc Required Class: Bard, Paladin, Cleric, Druid, Inquisitor, Psionicist, Monk, Ranger, Dread Knight, Rogue, Shaman, Sorcerer, Disciple, Warrior, Blood Mage, Necromancer, Berserker

On the map

  • Starts — spot 3, Wayfarer's Embassy, Khal (5440, -58787)

Source

https://www.vgoemulator.net/archive/MMODB%20Vanguard/vg.mmodb.com/quests/learning-rebuttals-633.html

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